alpilotx Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Release of UHD Mesh Scenery v4 for X-Plane 11 UHD Mesh Scenery v4 can be seen as a vastly improved version of the default scenery shipping with XP11. It is using/referencing the exact same set of artwork files (textures, object, autogens, forests) which ship with XP11, so you do not need other art assets to be installed while UHD Mesh Scenery v4 will also benefit from any artwork improvements (autogen, texture) coming with future XP11 versions. General Characteristics of UHD Mesh Scenery v4 are identical to those of HD Mesh Scenery v4 (you can read those on its own page). The advantages of UHD Mesh Scenery v4 are: Uses 30m DEM data (instead of 90m DEMs)! Landclass data for some areas (USA West, Europe Alps, Europe Pyrenees, Japan, New Zealand) was re-created with very high resolution (compared to the data used in HD Mesh Scenery v4) resulting in even better landclass representation. The triangle mesh resolution a lot higher than in HD Mesh Scenery v4: this give - obviously - even better representation of the 30m DEM data (slopes, mountains etc.) BUT this also vastly(!) improves the landclass data representation (which in X-Plane is very closely coupled with the triangle size in the mesh). This is most obvious with forest detail. OSM data is updated (its "date stamp" is 10th January 2018) . Which makes it newer than the data in UHD Mesh Scenery v4. Coverage New Zealand Japan Europe - Pyrenees Europe - Alps Europe - Scandinavia USA - West (3 files, 1/2/3) Canada - West (3 files, 1/2/3) Important Warnings! The scenery requires at least X-Plane 11.00 !!! IT WILL NOT WORK WITH X-Plane 10.xx! 32 GBytes of RAM are highly recommended (64 GBytes are optimal)! Some areas might work with 16 GBytes of RAM too, but there it is very likely you will quickly run into some OOM issues! Official Site All other (continuously updated) information, download links and important instructions can be found on the official UHD Mesh Scenery v4 Site: http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-uhd-mesh-scenery-v4/ Please read the instructions carefully, as not following them might result in a broken installation! Screenshots Here are the official screenshots accompanying the release of UHD Mesh Scenery v4. Just follow the links to my Google Photos albums: UHD Mesh Scenery v4 (for X-Plane 11) Have Fun! 6 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveg19 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Is there somewhere to see a comparison between this and the HD Mesh for X-Plane 11? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, steveg19 said: Is there somewhere to see a comparison between this and the HD Mesh for X-Plane 11? No, not for now ... maybe I will add a few such pictures later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Thank you, Andras! Just to confirm: Did you improve on the OSM import filter regarding power lines as discussed here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Daikan said: Thank you, Andras! Just to confirm: Did you improve on the OSM import filter regarding power lines as discussed here? Yes, Ifi I recall it correctly then yes I did ... just exactly as pointed out in that post. The revised filter should have been active already with the OSM import for UHD Mesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clager Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 WOW!! but 64GB RAM, blimey thats a lot!!...just hope my machine takes it?? haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janov Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Great work, Andras, thanks for your excellent contribution (again!!). Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommy2403 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) thank you very much for this awesome work! Edited March 24, 2018 by thommy2403 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 hours ago, clager said: WOW!! but 64GB RAM, blimey thats a lot!!...just hope my machine takes it?? haha! Well, you can - most of the time - safely fly it with 32 GB of RAM ... And some daring souls report to have it running with less than 16 GB of RAM (even though I doubt that really works ... so I definitely do NOT recommend that ... but everybody is free to test and see for himself/herself how it goes). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose2418 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Hey Alpilotx, great job! is it just me or the UHD Mesh is flattening runways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 hours ago, jose2418 said: Hey Alpilotx, great job! is it just me or the UHD Mesh is flattening runways Yes, its you ... UHD Mesh handles runways identically like HD or the default mesh. They all smooth (but NOT flatten) runways / airports within their boundaries (by smoothing the elevation data via some gaussian blur) ... So, if you get flattened airports, then you either activated that setting OR the runway has the per-runway flattening enabled (in its apt.dat)- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMikeFoxtrot Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Thank you for this... It's amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelgruen Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Hi alpilotx I spent some time flying in the Austrian alps. It seems to me that the mountains look even more truthful than in UHD V1. Reading the information on your homepage you used a new source for the DEM (viewfinderpanoramas for V1 vs. opendataportal.at for V4 in the alps). Is the new DEM made from a a different source ? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 4.4.2018 at 7:22 PM, michaelgruen said: Hi alpilotx I spent some time flying in the Austrian alps. It seems to me that the mountains look even more truthful than in UHD V1. Reading the information on your homepage you used a new source for the DEM (viewfinderpanoramas for V1 vs. opendataportal.at for V4 in the alps). Is the new DEM made from a a different source ? Michael Yes, if I say different source (viewfinderpanoramas vs. opendataportal), then it is different source The really big difference might come from the fact, that most of the data on ODP seems to be based on LIDAR measurements, which obviously captures the subtle landscape features much better. And yes, I had the same impression, that where ever LIDAR based DEM data was used, the mountains look definitely "better". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, alpilotx said: Yes, if I say different source (viewfinderpanoramas vs. opendataportal), then it is different source The really big difference might come from the fact, that most of the data on ODP seems to be based on LIDAR measurements, which obviously captures the subtle landscape features much better. And yes, I had the same impression, that where ever LIDAR based DEM data was used, the mountains look definitely "better". Was ODP data used for all tiles in the Alps region? I'm asking because I was only able to find DTM/DEM's for 6 countries (DE, AT, IT, ES, LU, SI) but I didn't check their actual extents. Personally I would be interested to know what source was used for the Swiss tiles like +47+006 to +47+008 and +46+006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Daikan said: Was ODP data used for all tiles in the Alps region? I'm asking because I was only able to find DTM/DEM's for 6 countries (DE, AT, IT, ES, LU, SI) but I didn't check their actual extents. Personally I would be interested to know what source was used for the Swiss tiles like +47+006 to +47+008 and +46+006 Well, of course I only used the same data which you see on the ODP site. What I did was, to use some masking along the French and Swiss border and fill up everything there with the 30m Viewfinderpanoramas data ... (and also fully use it where no ODP data was available). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV20Katana Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Fantastic work, thank you very much. I will not be able to run this (only have 12GB DDR3) but Im using your other HD mesh and its made an amazing difference to my XP11. Cant wait to get a new powerful rig one day so I can run this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrogenes2 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Is there a known problem with the UHD4 Alps scenery around Interlaken (LSMI) ? The town and all other traits of civilization appear to have been wiped, even the nearby lake (Brienzer See) is halfway filled with 'default landmass'. The other half of the lake and Brienz/Meiringen look 'normal' with all details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Well, I checked LSMI .... and it does not look like what you are seeing on your screenshot. For me, it all seems quite good. This is what I see (which UHD Mesh Scenery v4 WORKING): I do not exactly know what you are loading there, but it is definitely NOT UHD Mesh Scenery v4! But you could check your Log.txt to see what (and from where ) XP11 loads at that location ... then you might understand whats going on. Also, pleas check this link on my website which helps you to diagnose UHD Mesh Scenery v4 loading via Log.txt: http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-uhd-mesh-scenery-v4/#How_to_know_if_the_installation_was_correct (ans to everybody else: please always do the above test when you use HD or UHD mesh Scenery v4 the first time ... because there were so many users already who THOUGHT they used HD or UHD mesh whereas X-Plane didn't even load it because of - usually - simple installation errors) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mSparks43 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Be great if I could use DSFHolePunch to test merging this with orthophotos, but no coverage in the Balkans so nothing to download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpilotx Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, mSparks43 said: Be great if I could use DSFHolePunch to test merging this with orthophotos, but no coverage in the Balkans so nothing to download. There you have HD Mesh Scenery v4 coverage --> http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-hd-mesh-scenery-v4/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mSparks43 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, alpilotx said: There you have HD Mesh Scenery v4 coverage --> http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-hd-mesh-scenery-v4/ yup, works well. but a marginal improvement, which you know, or we wouldn't have uhd But no pressure from here, want to get this pplh finished, so my attention is on flying atm. Edited April 17, 2018 by mSparks43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVProducer Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 12:58 PM, alpilotx said: Release of UHD Mesh Scenery v4 for X-Plane 11 UHD Mesh Scenery v4 can be seen as a vastly improved version of the default scenery shipping with XP11. It is using/referencing the exact same set of artwork files (textures, object, autogens, forests) which ship with XP11, so you do not need other art assets to be installed while UHD Mesh Scenery v4 will also benefit from any artwork improvements (autogen, texture) coming with future XP11 versions. General Characteristics of UHD Mesh Scenery v4 are identical to those of HD Mesh Scenery v4 (you can read those on its own page). The advantages of UHD Mesh Scenery v4 are: Uses 30m DEM data (instead of 90m DEMs)! Landclass data for some areas (USA West, Europe Alps, Europe Pyrenees, Japan, New Zealand) was re-created with very high resolution (compared to the data used in HD Mesh Scenery v4) resulting in even better landclass representation. The triangle mesh resolution a lot higher than in HD Mesh Scenery v4: this give - obviously - even better representation of the 30m DEM data (slopes, mountains etc.) BUT this also vastly(!) improves the landclass data representation (which in X-Plane is very closely coupled with the triangle size in the mesh). This is most obvious with forest detail. OSM data is updated (its "date stamp" is 10th January 2018) . Which makes it newer than the data in UHD Mesh Scenery v4. Coverage New Zealand Japan Europe - Pyrenees Europe - Alps Europe - Scandinavia USA - West (3 files, 1/2/3) Canada - West (3 files, 1/2/3) Important Warnings! The scenery requires at least X-Plane 11.00 !!! IT WILL NOT WORK WITH X-Plane 10.xx! 32 GBytes of RAM are highly recommended (64 GBytes are optimal)! Some areas might work with 16 GBytes of RAM too, but there it is very likely you will quickly run into some OOM issues! Official Site All other (continuously updated) information, download links and important instructions can be found on the official UHD Mesh Scenery v4 Site: http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-uhd-mesh-scenery-v4/ Please read the instructions carefully, as not following them might result in a broken installation! Screenshots Here are the official screenshots accompanying the release of UHD Mesh Scenery v4. Just follow the links to my Google Photos albums: UHD Mesh Scenery v4 (for X-Plane 11) Have Fun! Its Gorgeous - Gotta grab it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrogenes2 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 On 15.4.2018 at 9:46 PM, alpilotx said: Well, I checked LSMI .... and it does not look like what you are seeing on your screenshot. For me, it all seems quite good. This is what I see (which UHD Mesh Scenery v4 WORKING): I do not exactly know what you are loading there, but it is definitely NOT UHD Mesh Scenery v4! But you could check your Log.txt to see what (and from where ) XP11 loads at that location ... then you might understand whats going on. Also, pleas check this link on my website which helps you to diagnose UHD Mesh Scenery v4 loading via Log.txt: http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-uhd-mesh-scenery-v4/#How_to_know_if_the_installation_was_correct (ans to everybody else: please always do the above test when you use HD or UHD mesh Scenery v4 the first time ... because there were so many users already who THOUGHT they used HD or UHD mesh whereas X-Plane didn't even load it because of - usually - simple installation errors) Thank you, I found the artifact to be caused by the '3D Matterhorn Park' scenery which alledgedly has some side effects on the nearby landscape in the same DSF tiles +45+7 and +46+7. After deactivating that, Interlaken and surroundings came to life again :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffcfp Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 A question from a newbie if I could. Does this package require the. base scenery that comes with XP11 be installed first or can this be a. replacement? The reason I ask is that after a month I have yet to be able to load the scenery from XP11. Reported to CS but all Randy did was sent out a set of DVD's that after 3 weeks still have not arrived. so sorta stuck I no-man's land until that part of the puzzle gets sorted out. Thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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